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Delivery Options

TimescaleMethodCharge
Free next-day 98% of orders arrive the next working day Royal Mail 1st class * FREE
Guaranteed next-day Guaranteed to arrive on the next working day

Guaranteed next-day

In the extremely unlikely event that the courier does not attempt delivery on the next working day, you will be given:

- A 10% refund of the total order value

- A refund of £2.95 next-day courier charge

- A further voucher giving you 10% off your next order

Guaranteed next-day

In the extremely unlikely event that the courier does not attempt delivery on the next working day, you will be given:

- A 10% refund of the total order value

- A refund of £2.95 next-day courier charge

- A further voucher giving you 10% off your next order

Courier £2.95
Guaranteed pre-12 Guaranteed to arrive before 12 noon on the next working day

Guaranteed pre-12

In the extremely unlikely event that the courier does not attempt delivery before 12 noon on the next working day, you will be given:

- A 10% refund of the total order value

- A refund of £7.95 pre-12 courier charge

- A further voucher giving you 10% off your next order

Guaranteed pre-12

In the extremely unlikely event that the courier does not attempt delivery before 12 noon on the next working day, you will be given:

- A 10% refund of the total order value

- A refund of £7.95 pre-12 courier charge

- A further voucher giving you 10% off your next order

Courier £7.95

* Depending on size and value, some orders may be upgraded from Royal Mail to Courier.

Delivery Schedule

Order placedExpect to receive
Monday, before 5:15pm Next day (Tuesday)
Tuesday, before 5:15pm Next day (Wednesday)
Wednesday, before 5:15pm Next day (Thursday)
Thursday, before 5:15pm Next day (Friday)
Friday, before 5:15pm Monday
Saturday or Sunday Tuesday

Bank holidays

We do not despatch or deliver orders on bank holidays

Highlands and Islands

Deliveries may take 2 to 3 days longer to arrive

International deliveries

We only deliver to addresses within the UK.

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Lowest online price guaranteed

If within 7 days of your purchase you find the same product (brand and model) being offered online at a lower price, we will refund 100% of the difference. For further info, click here.

Lowest online price guaranteed

To claim against our low price guarantee simply contact us and include the following information:

  • Your full name, postal address, email address and order number
  • The product code of the item you found cheaper on a competitor's site
  • The exact page on the competitors website where you found the product cheaper

Our low price guarantee applies only to products available from online UK retailers. It excludes products that are not new and immediately available, online promotions such as special, bonus or free offers that are not at everyday prices and products which are sold under different terms and conditions, such as special financing, contract pricing or volume discount pricing.

Basically, the identical items must be in stock and ready for immediate dispatch on another VAT registered UK mainland based website.

Free next-day delivery

Our free delivery option typically uses Royal Mail first class. In 98% of cases, orders placed on Monday to Friday before 5:15pm will arrive on the next working day. To see other delivery options and our delivery schedule click here.

Delivery Schedule

Orders placed before 5:15pm on Monday to Thursday - receive next day

Orders placed before 5:15pm on Friday - receive on Monday

Orders placed on Saturday or Sunday - receive on Tuesday

Delivery Options

Free next-day

98% of orders arrive the next working day. Typically uses Royal Mail 1st class, though some orders may be upgraded to courier.

Guaranteed next-day (£2.95)

Uses courier. In the extremely unlikely event that delivery isn't attempted on the next working day, you will be given:

  • A 10% refund of the total order value
  • A refund of £2.95 courier charge
  • A further voucher giving you a further 10% off your next order

Guaranteed pre-12 (£7.95)

Uses courier. In the extremely unlikely event that delivery isn't attempted before 12 noon on the next working day, you will be given:

  • A 10% refund of the total order value
  • A refund of £7.95 courier charge
  • A further voucher giving you a further 10% off your next order

12 month warranty on everything

If within a year of purchase you happen to experience any quality problem, we'll happily provide a replacement, or a full refund.

Free returns

Whatever the reason for returning items to Cartridge Save, you will never pay a penny for postage.

Lowest online price guaranteed

We pride ourselves in giving our customers the best possible value for money. To ensure you are not out of pocket, we will refund 100% of the difference, if within 7 days of your purchase you find the same product (brand and model) being offered online at a lower price.

To claim against our low price guarantee simply contact us and include the following information:

  • Your full name, postal address, email address and order number
  • The product code of the item you found cheaper on a competitor's site
  • The exact page on the competitors website where you found the product cheaper

Our low price guarantee applies only to products available from online UK retailers. It excludes products that are not new and immediately available, online promotions such as special, bonus or free offers that are not at everyday prices and products which are sold under different terms and conditions, such as special financing, contract pricing or volume discount pricing.

Basically, the identical items must be in stock and ready for immediate dispatch on another VAT registered UK mainland based website.

Epson AL-M400DN Toner Cartridges
Epson AL-M400DN Toner Cartridges

Epson AL-M400DN Toner Cartridges

The following 5 products are guaranteed to work in your Epson AL-M400DN printer:

5 products guaranteed to work in your printer:

5 products guaranteed to work in your Epson AL-M400DN printer:

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Black toner cartridges for Epson AL-M400DN printer

  1. Genuine High Capacity Black Return Epson S050699 Toner Cartridge - (C13S050699)

    Best value Genuine

    0.8p per page (1 pack) 0.8p per page Pack of 1 toner cartridges

    For most cartridges this is based on 5% coverage on A4 paper. These numbers are based on manufacturer quoted values and are for comparison purposes only.

    23,700 pages

    Pack Contains:

    Black - 23,700 pages

    For most cartridges this is based on 5% coverage on A4 paper. These numbers are based on manufacturer quoted values and are for comparison purposes only.

    High Capacity
    • High capacity black return toner cartridge
    • Lowest online price guaranteed

      If within 7 days of buying a product from us, you find the same product cheaper at any other UK online store, we will refund you with 100% of the difference.

    • Lowest online price guaranteed

      If within 7 days of buying a product from us, you find the same product cheaper at any other UK online store, we will refund you with 100% of the difference.

    • 12 month guarantee and FREE returns

      If within a year of purchase you happen to experience any quality problem, we'll happily provide a replacement, or a full refund.

      Whatever the reason for returning items to cartridgesave.co.uk, you will never pay a penny for postage.

    • 12 month guarantee and FREE returns

      If within a year of purchase you happen to experience any quality problem, we'll happily provide a replacement, or a full refund.

      Whatever the reason for returning items to cartridgesave.co.uk, you will never pay a penny for postage.

    Best value Genuine

    0.8p per page

    For most cartridges this is based on 5% coverage on A4 paper. These numbers are based on manufacturer quoted values and are for comparison purposes only.

    23,700 pages
    High Capacity

    Best value Genuine

    0.8p per page (1 pack) 0.8p per page Pack of 1 toner cartridges

    For most cartridges this is based on 5% coverage on A4 paper. These numbers are based on manufacturer quoted values and are for comparison purposes only.

    23,700 pages

    Pack Contains:

    Black - 23,700 pages

    For most cartridges this is based on 5% coverage on A4 paper. These numbers are based on manufacturer quoted values and are for comparison purposes only.

    High Capacity
    £188.30 (£225.96 inc VAT)

    FREE next-day delivery

    Multi-buy discount
    • Buy more, save money
    • 2 £185.84 (£223.01 inc VAT)
    • 3+ £184.89 (£221.87 inc VAT)

    Best value Genuine

    1 pack | 0.8p per page

    Pack Contains:

    Black - 23,700 pages

    For most cartridges this is based on 5% coverage on A4 paper. These numbers are based on manufacturer quoted values and are for comparison purposes only.

    High Capacity
    • High capacity black return toner cartridge
    • Lowest online price guaranteed

      If within 7 days of buying a product from us, you find the same product cheaper at any other UK online store, we will refund you with 100% of the difference.

    • Lowest online price guaranteed

      If within 7 days of buying a product from us, you find the same product cheaper at any other UK online store, we will refund you with 100% of the difference.

    • 12 month guarantee and FREE returns

      If within a year of purchase you happen to experience any quality problem, we'll happily provide a replacement, or a full refund.

      Whatever the reason for returning items to cartridgesave.co.uk, you will never pay a penny for postage.

    • 12 month guarantee and FREE returns

      If within a year of purchase you happen to experience any quality problem, we'll happily provide a replacement, or a full refund.

      Whatever the reason for returning items to cartridgesave.co.uk, you will never pay a penny for postage.

    £188.30 (£225.96 inc VAT)

    FREE next-day delivery

    Multi-buy discount
    • Buy more, save money
    • 2 £185.84 (£223.01 inc VAT)
    • 3+ £184.89 (£221.87 inc VAT)
  2. Genuine Black High Capacity Epson S050697 Toner Cartridge - (C13S050697)
    0.9p per page (1 pack) 0.9p per page Pack of 1 toner cartridges

    For most cartridges this is based on 5% coverage on A4 paper. These numbers are based on manufacturer quoted values and are for comparison purposes only.

    23,700 pages

    Pack Contains:

    Black - 23,700 pages

    For most cartridges this is based on 5% coverage on A4 paper. These numbers are based on manufacturer quoted values and are for comparison purposes only.

    High Capacity
    • High capacity black toner cartridge
    • Lowest online price guaranteed

      If within 7 days of buying a product from us, you find the same product cheaper at any other UK online store, we will refund you with 100% of the difference.

    • Lowest online price guaranteed

      If within 7 days of buying a product from us, you find the same product cheaper at any other UK online store, we will refund you with 100% of the difference.

    • 12 month guarantee and FREE returns

      If within a year of purchase you happen to experience any quality problem, we'll happily provide a replacement, or a full refund.

      Whatever the reason for returning items to cartridgesave.co.uk, you will never pay a penny for postage.

    • 12 month guarantee and FREE returns

      If within a year of purchase you happen to experience any quality problem, we'll happily provide a replacement, or a full refund.

      Whatever the reason for returning items to cartridgesave.co.uk, you will never pay a penny for postage.

    0.9p per page

    For most cartridges this is based on 5% coverage on A4 paper. These numbers are based on manufacturer quoted values and are for comparison purposes only.

    23,700 pages
    High Capacity
    0.9p per page (1 pack) 0.9p per page Pack of 1 toner cartridges

    For most cartridges this is based on 5% coverage on A4 paper. These numbers are based on manufacturer quoted values and are for comparison purposes only.

    23,700 pages

    Pack Contains:

    Black - 23,700 pages

    For most cartridges this is based on 5% coverage on A4 paper. These numbers are based on manufacturer quoted values and are for comparison purposes only.

    High Capacity
    £210.99 (£253.19 inc VAT)

    FREE delivery

    Multi-buy discount
    • Buy more, save money
    • 2 £208.43 (£250.12 inc VAT)
    • 3+ £207.44 (£248.93 inc VAT)

    Pack Contains:

    Black - 23,700 pages

    For most cartridges this is based on 5% coverage on A4 paper. These numbers are based on manufacturer quoted values and are for comparison purposes only.

    High Capacity
    • High capacity black toner cartridge
    • Lowest online price guaranteed

      If within 7 days of buying a product from us, you find the same product cheaper at any other UK online store, we will refund you with 100% of the difference.

    • Lowest online price guaranteed

      If within 7 days of buying a product from us, you find the same product cheaper at any other UK online store, we will refund you with 100% of the difference.

    • 12 month guarantee and FREE returns

      If within a year of purchase you happen to experience any quality problem, we'll happily provide a replacement, or a full refund.

      Whatever the reason for returning items to cartridgesave.co.uk, you will never pay a penny for postage.

    • 12 month guarantee and FREE returns

      If within a year of purchase you happen to experience any quality problem, we'll happily provide a replacement, or a full refund.

      Whatever the reason for returning items to cartridgesave.co.uk, you will never pay a penny for postage.

    £210.99 (£253.19 inc VAT)

    FREE delivery

    Multi-buy discount
    • Buy more, save money
    • 2 £208.43 (£250.12 inc VAT)
    • 3+ £207.44 (£248.93 inc VAT)
  3. Genuine Black Epson S050698 Toner Cartridge - (C13S050698)
    1.2p per page (1 pack) 1.2p per page Pack of 1 toner cartridges

    For most cartridges this is based on 5% coverage on A4 paper. These numbers are based on manufacturer quoted values and are for comparison purposes only.

    12,000 pages

    Pack Contains:

    Black - 12,000 pages

    For most cartridges this is based on 5% coverage on A4 paper. These numbers are based on manufacturer quoted values and are for comparison purposes only.

    • Black toner cartridge
    • Lowest online price guaranteed

      If within 7 days of buying a product from us, you find the same product cheaper at any other UK online store, we will refund you with 100% of the difference.

    • Lowest online price guaranteed

      If within 7 days of buying a product from us, you find the same product cheaper at any other UK online store, we will refund you with 100% of the difference.

    • 12 month guarantee and FREE returns

      If within a year of purchase you happen to experience any quality problem, we'll happily provide a replacement, or a full refund.

      Whatever the reason for returning items to cartridgesave.co.uk, you will never pay a penny for postage.

    • 12 month guarantee and FREE returns

      If within a year of purchase you happen to experience any quality problem, we'll happily provide a replacement, or a full refund.

      Whatever the reason for returning items to cartridgesave.co.uk, you will never pay a penny for postage.

    1.2p per page

    For most cartridges this is based on 5% coverage on A4 paper. These numbers are based on manufacturer quoted values and are for comparison purposes only.

    12,000 pages
    1.2p per page (1 pack) 1.2p per page Pack of 1 toner cartridges

    For most cartridges this is based on 5% coverage on A4 paper. These numbers are based on manufacturer quoted values and are for comparison purposes only.

    12,000 pages

    Pack Contains:

    Black - 12,000 pages

    For most cartridges this is based on 5% coverage on A4 paper. These numbers are based on manufacturer quoted values and are for comparison purposes only.

    £149.23 (£179.08 inc VAT)

    FREE delivery

    Multi-buy discount
    • Buy more, save money
    • 2 £146.92 (£176.30 inc VAT)
    • 3+ £146.06 (£175.27 inc VAT)

    Pack Contains:

    Black - 12,000 pages

    For most cartridges this is based on 5% coverage on A4 paper. These numbers are based on manufacturer quoted values and are for comparison purposes only.

    • Black toner cartridge
    • Lowest online price guaranteed

      If within 7 days of buying a product from us, you find the same product cheaper at any other UK online store, we will refund you with 100% of the difference.

    • Lowest online price guaranteed

      If within 7 days of buying a product from us, you find the same product cheaper at any other UK online store, we will refund you with 100% of the difference.

    • 12 month guarantee and FREE returns

      If within a year of purchase you happen to experience any quality problem, we'll happily provide a replacement, or a full refund.

      Whatever the reason for returning items to cartridgesave.co.uk, you will never pay a penny for postage.

    • 12 month guarantee and FREE returns

      If within a year of purchase you happen to experience any quality problem, we'll happily provide a replacement, or a full refund.

      Whatever the reason for returning items to cartridgesave.co.uk, you will never pay a penny for postage.

    £149.23 (£179.08 inc VAT)

    FREE delivery

    Multi-buy discount
    • Buy more, save money
    • 2 £146.92 (£176.30 inc VAT)
    • 3+ £146.06 (£175.27 inc VAT)

 
Maintenance items for Epson AL-M400DN printer

  1. Genuine Epson S053057 Maintenance Unit - (C13S053057)
    0.1p per page (1 pack) 0.1p per page Pack of 1 toner cartridges

    For most cartridges this is based on 5% coverage on A4 paper. These numbers are based on manufacturer quoted values and are for comparison purposes only.

    200,000 pages

    Pack Contains:

    - 200,000 pages

    For most cartridges this is based on 5% coverage on A4 paper. These numbers are based on manufacturer quoted values and are for comparison purposes only.

    • Maintenance unit
    • Lowest online price guaranteed

      If within 7 days of buying a product from us, you find the same product cheaper at any other UK online store, we will refund you with 100% of the difference.

    • Lowest online price guaranteed

      If within 7 days of buying a product from us, you find the same product cheaper at any other UK online store, we will refund you with 100% of the difference.

    • 12 month guarantee and FREE returns

      If within a year of purchase you happen to experience any quality problem, we'll happily provide a replacement, or a full refund.

      Whatever the reason for returning items to cartridgesave.co.uk, you will never pay a penny for postage.

    • 12 month guarantee and FREE returns

      If within a year of purchase you happen to experience any quality problem, we'll happily provide a replacement, or a full refund.

      Whatever the reason for returning items to cartridgesave.co.uk, you will never pay a penny for postage.

    0.1p per page

    For most cartridges this is based on 5% coverage on A4 paper. These numbers are based on manufacturer quoted values and are for comparison purposes only.

    200,000 pages
    0.1p per page (1 pack) 0.1p per page Pack of 1 toner cartridges

    For most cartridges this is based on 5% coverage on A4 paper. These numbers are based on manufacturer quoted values and are for comparison purposes only.

    200,000 pages

    Pack Contains:

    - 200,000 pages

    For most cartridges this is based on 5% coverage on A4 paper. These numbers are based on manufacturer quoted values and are for comparison purposes only.

    £136.61 (£163.93 inc VAT)

    FREE delivery

    Multi-buy discount
    • Buy more, save money
    • 2 £134.35 (£161.22 inc VAT)
    • 3+ £133.51 (£160.21 inc VAT)

    Pack Contains:

    - 200,000 pages

    For most cartridges this is based on 5% coverage on A4 paper. These numbers are based on manufacturer quoted values and are for comparison purposes only.

    • Maintenance unit
    • Lowest online price guaranteed

      If within 7 days of buying a product from us, you find the same product cheaper at any other UK online store, we will refund you with 100% of the difference.

    • Lowest online price guaranteed

      If within 7 days of buying a product from us, you find the same product cheaper at any other UK online store, we will refund you with 100% of the difference.

    • 12 month guarantee and FREE returns

      If within a year of purchase you happen to experience any quality problem, we'll happily provide a replacement, or a full refund.

      Whatever the reason for returning items to cartridgesave.co.uk, you will never pay a penny for postage.

    • 12 month guarantee and FREE returns

      If within a year of purchase you happen to experience any quality problem, we'll happily provide a replacement, or a full refund.

      Whatever the reason for returning items to cartridgesave.co.uk, you will never pay a penny for postage.

    £136.61 (£163.93 inc VAT)

    FREE delivery

    Multi-buy discount
    • Buy more, save money
    • 2 £134.35 (£161.22 inc VAT)
    • 3+ £133.51 (£160.21 inc VAT)
  2. Genuine Epson S051230 Photoconductor Unit (C13S051230 Laser Printer Photoconductor / OPC)

    Best value Genuine

    0.1p per page (1 pack) 0.1p per page Pack of 1 toner cartridges

    For most cartridges this is based on 5% coverage on A4 paper. These numbers are based on manufacturer quoted values and are for comparison purposes only.

    100,000 pages

    Pack Contains:

    - 100,000 pages

    For most cartridges this is based on 5% coverage on A4 paper. These numbers are based on manufacturer quoted values and are for comparison purposes only.

    • Image drum unit
    • Lowest online price guaranteed

      If within 7 days of buying a product from us, you find the same product cheaper at any other UK online store, we will refund you with 100% of the difference.

    • Lowest online price guaranteed

      If within 7 days of buying a product from us, you find the same product cheaper at any other UK online store, we will refund you with 100% of the difference.

    • 12 month guarantee and FREE returns

      If within a year of purchase you happen to experience any quality problem, we'll happily provide a replacement, or a full refund.

      Whatever the reason for returning items to cartridgesave.co.uk, you will never pay a penny for postage.

    • 12 month guarantee and FREE returns

      If within a year of purchase you happen to experience any quality problem, we'll happily provide a replacement, or a full refund.

      Whatever the reason for returning items to cartridgesave.co.uk, you will never pay a penny for postage.

    Best value Genuine

    0.1p per page

    For most cartridges this is based on 5% coverage on A4 paper. These numbers are based on manufacturer quoted values and are for comparison purposes only.

    100,000 pages

    Best value Genuine

    0.1p per page (1 pack) 0.1p per page Pack of 1 toner cartridges

    For most cartridges this is based on 5% coverage on A4 paper. These numbers are based on manufacturer quoted values and are for comparison purposes only.

    100,000 pages

    Pack Contains:

    - 100,000 pages

    For most cartridges this is based on 5% coverage on A4 paper. These numbers are based on manufacturer quoted values and are for comparison purposes only.

    £51.01 (£61.21 inc VAT)

    FREE next-day delivery

    Multi-buy discount
    • Buy more, save money
    • 2 £49.09 (£58.91 inc VAT)
    • 3+ £48.42 (£58.10 inc VAT)

    Best value Genuine

    1 pack | 0.1p per page

    Pack Contains:

    - 100,000 pages

    For most cartridges this is based on 5% coverage on A4 paper. These numbers are based on manufacturer quoted values and are for comparison purposes only.

    • Image drum unit
    • Lowest online price guaranteed

      If within 7 days of buying a product from us, you find the same product cheaper at any other UK online store, we will refund you with 100% of the difference.

    • Lowest online price guaranteed

      If within 7 days of buying a product from us, you find the same product cheaper at any other UK online store, we will refund you with 100% of the difference.

    • 12 month guarantee and FREE returns

      If within a year of purchase you happen to experience any quality problem, we'll happily provide a replacement, or a full refund.

      Whatever the reason for returning items to cartridgesave.co.uk, you will never pay a penny for postage.

    • 12 month guarantee and FREE returns

      If within a year of purchase you happen to experience any quality problem, we'll happily provide a replacement, or a full refund.

      Whatever the reason for returning items to cartridgesave.co.uk, you will never pay a penny for postage.

    £51.01 (£61.21 inc VAT)

    FREE next-day delivery

    Multi-buy discount
    • Buy more, save money
    • 2 £49.09 (£58.91 inc VAT)
    • 3+ £48.42 (£58.10 inc VAT)

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  • How much is the ink of this printer Epson AL-M400 black only. Thank you for your prompt response. Rebecca

    Epson Printer AL-M400 ink black only

    Thank you for your question. Please see the link below for all the cartridges we offer for this model of machine.
    https://www.cartridgesave.co.uk/toner-cartridges/Epson/AL-M400DN.html

    Answered by Donna Salt (Staff Member) - about 2 months ago
  • I would like to know the price of Epson AL-M4000DN toner if buying a quantity of 15 pcs? Best regards, Maysa.

    Epson AL-M4000DN toner purchase

    We have a multi-buy price that will apply if you purchase more than 3 x Epson AL-M4000DN toner cartidges at the same time. To see how much it would cost to buy 15 x Epson ALM4000DN toner cartridges you'll need to adjust the quantity in the drop-down box to '15' and then click on 'Add to basket' followed by 'View basket'.

    Answered by Denise Mannion (Staff Member) - about 3 years ago

Epson AL-M400DN Printer Review

Expert review of the Epson AL-M400DN printer

Our Verdict:

The Epson WorkForce AL-M400DN is a reliable and high performance monochrome laser printer that is praised for fast print speeds, versatile network connectivity, and expandability options. The compact footprint makes it a space-saver for small to medium offices, while AcuBrite toner ensures high quality results across a good selection of paper types, but the Epson WorkForce AL-M400DN monochrome laser printer is an expensive device that lacks a few useful features.

Design

The Epson WorkForce AL-M400DN printer looks boxy but it is surprisingly compact, measuring 396mm wide, 324mm tall, and 426mm deep, and weighing 14Kg. The two default paper trays are a 550-sheet standard cassette and a 150-sheet multipurpose tray. There is space for up to three additional paper cassettes. A 600MHz processor running on 128MB of memory empowers the machine. Connectivity is via USB 2.0 type B, IEEE 1284, and Gigabit Ethernet.

Advantages

There is built-in networking and the paper capacity of the Epson AL-M400DN black and white laser printer is expandable to 2,350 sheets. The memory can also be expanded to 1152MB for seamless operation and print speeds that won't falter, at up to 45ppm. The Epson WorkForce AL-M400DN A4 mono laser printer can print directly from mobile devices like smartphones and tablets via Epson iPrint. Two-sided printing reduces printing costs. Medium-sized workgroups can benefit from the high yield Epson AL-M400DN black toner which lasts for as long as 23,700 pages.

Disadvantages

The WorkForce AL-M400DN doesn't print in colour and despite the paper input expansions, the output bin can only handle up to 150 sheets at a time. Some users might have difficulty viewing the status from the display screen if they are seated because the control panel is not angled properly. The initial price of the AL-M400DN printer may be too expensive for a start-up business.